DOGE & The Surveillance State
Peter Thiel wanted your data, and he got it.
The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) was pitched and embraced as a tool for government efficiency, but a careful watch of what it actually did paints a much different picture. Elon Musk’s own AI system Grok tells us that it was part of a design to capture American’s data from the government for Palantir. This is all a part of the Dark Enlightenment which is commonly represented in politics by the black MAGA hats. It is embraced by Elon Musk as well as monarchist Curtis Yarvin & the transhumanist, antichrist obsessed, billionaire who owns Palantir.
DOGE’s sharing of data was something I ‘knew’ was happening and had happened based on the structure and players along, and my and other’s previous career experience working with people associated with Palantir. However, the amount of research needed to make that accusation without just relying on corporate media and independent writers would have been intense.
I try to avoid any direct AI input in my writing, but, in this case, I find it it essential because Elon Musk’s own technology reveals what one of at least two purposes and results of DOGE. I think it’s important to document it in real time, because Musk has repeatedly changed the Grok model for political purposes.
Tonight, I asked Elon Musk’s Grok this simple question, and the results were more revealing than I expected: “Did Elon share DOGE data with Peter Thiel?” This is the introductory summary:
Yes, Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has shared or integrated government data with Peter Thiel through Thiel’s company, Palantir Technologies, as part of broader efforts to centralize federal databases for efficiency, surveillance, and policy implementation. This collaboration stems from their long-standing professional ties (co-founders of PayPal) and shared political influence in the Trump administration, where DOGE accessed sensitive datasets from agencies like the IRS, Treasury, Office of Personnel Management, and immigration records before feeding them into Palantir’s data-mining systems.
DOGE & The Dark Enlightenment
While the data sharing summary was much more direct than I expected, the explanation of the purpose and plan for DOGE was not something that I expected Elon’s technology to state so explicitly. The following was the final bullet point in Grok’s answer:
Personnel Overlap: DOGE recruited from Thiel’s network, including Palantir alumni like Akash Bobba and Anthony Jancso, facilitating indirect data flows through shared staff. This “stuffing” of DOGE with Thiel-aligned lieutenants underscores coordinated influence without formal chain-of-command.
Context and Implications
Musk and Thiel’s alignment on “Dark Enlightenment” ideologies—favoring techno-libertarian governance over traditional democracy—framed DOGE as a vehicle for these goals. Critics argue this creates a “surveillance state” benefiting private firms like Palantir, which has long-standing government contracts. Musk has publicly endorsed the efficiency angle, but no direct X posts from him confirm the sharing; it’s evidenced through reporting and administration actions. As of September 2025, these integrations continue despite Musk’s partial step-back from DOGE, with Thiel’s influence persisting via VP J.D. Vance (a Thiel protégé).
Given how DOGE attacked things that likely cost the taxpayers money instead of saving money and there are reports of how MUCH it may have cost us, the data collection purpose seems to match my and my colleague’s suspicions as one of two primary purposes. The other suspected purpose, consistent with Project 2025, is to cripple government agencies so they cannot easily be rebuilt by a future White House and Congress.
I’ve included the full response as well as screenshots below for further reading and for documentation in a world where the answers could be changed or data scrubbed overnight.
Full Answer:
Yes, Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has shared or integrated government data with Peter Thiel through Thiel’s company, Palantir Technologies, as part of broader efforts to centralize federal databases for efficiency, surveillance, and policy implementation. This collaboration stems from their long-standing professional ties (co-founders of PayPal) and shared political influence in the Trump administration, where DOGE accessed sensitive datasets from agencies like the IRS, Treasury, Office of Personnel Management, and immigration records before feeding them into Palantir’s data-mining systems.
Key Details on the Data Sharing
• Palantir’s Role in DOGE Projects: DOGE, led by Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, partnered with Palantir to build a “master database” aggregating cross-referenced data on Americans, including tax records, immigration files, and personal information from federal agencies. This was enabled by a $30 million contract with ICE for real-time migrant tracking and expanded to broader surveillance tools. Palantir’s software acts as an “operating system” for government data centralization, directly building on DOGE’s data aggregation efforts.
• Specific Examples:
◦ IRS Data Project: DOGE collaborated with Palantir on a “mega API” for the IRS, allowing seamless access and analysis of taxpayer data to identify fraud and waste.
◦ Immigration and Surveillance Database: DOGE scraped personal data from multiple agencies, which was then handed to Palantir for a centralized system to track immigrants and citizens, raising privacy concerns.
◦ Broader Federal Access: DOGE teams, including young engineers with ties to Musk and Thiel, gained entry to agencies like USAID, Medicare, and the Education Department, routing data through AI tools before integration with Palantir.
• Personnel Overlap: DOGE recruited from Thiel’s network, including Palantir alumni like Akash Bobba and Anthony Jancso, facilitating indirect data flows through shared staff. This “stuffing” of DOGE with Thiel-aligned lieutenants underscores coordinated influence without formal chain-of-command.
Context and Implications
Musk and Thiel’s alignment on “Dark Enlightenment” ideologies—favoring techno-libertarian governance over traditional democracy—framed DOGE as a vehicle for these goals. Critics argue this creates a “surveillance state” benefiting private firms like Palantir, which has long-standing government contracts. Musk has publicly endorsed the efficiency angle, but no direct X posts from him confirm the sharing; it’s evidenced through reporting and administration actions. As of September 2025, these integrations continue despite Musk’s partial step-back from DOGE, with Thiel’s influence persisting via VP J.D. Vance (a Thiel protégé).








We will all live to regret allowing this to happen. We need a basic agreement that everyone deserves a minimum level of personal privacy. Government data on us should never be allowed into the hands of ANY private business. Those with access must use super serious security at all times.
This is the first time I've encountered the term "Dark Enlightenment."